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Interview
with NHRA's Gary Scelzi
Who would have ever thought a three-time Top
Fuel champion like Gary Scelzi would sit out
nearly an entire season? After racing in the
first seven events of 2002 in a Funny Car,
Scelzi and longtime crew chief Alan Johnson
decided to end their association. Bruce Sarver
stepped into the driver's seat and Scelzi spent
the rest of the year trying to find a new ride.
Mission accomplished. Scelzi now drives the
second Oakley-sponsored Funny Car in the Don
Schumacher Racing program. He's behind the wheel
of the Oakley Dodge Stratus R/T with a new tuner
making all of the wrenching decisions. In this
Q&A session, Scelzi talks about what it was
like to be on the sidelines, what he wants to
prove, and why he seems so darn happy just one
race into the season.
Q: What are you looking forward to the most in
2003?
SCELZI: Winning races in Funny Car. I want to
win and I want to win early. I want to establish
this team. We have everything we need to win. We
have the brains, we have the money and we have
the talent. I think we are going to jell well
together. I love (crew chief) Mike Neff already.
He is so laid back, he is so cool and he is very
methodical. With Dan Olson overseeing this whole
operation, and having Lee Beard with Whit
Bazemore, Phil Shuler with Scotty Cannon and Wes
Cerny with Tony Schumacher, I really think the
entire Don Schumacher Racing organization has
some of the best minds in the business. If we
can keep everyone level-headed, I think it is
endless what we can do. I think that is
something that (John) Force has done so well in
his group. He has meshed Austin Coil, Bernie
Fedderly, John Medlen, Dickie Venables and Jimmy
Prock. Those guys are all on the same page. Even
though John is the guy in that camp, Tony
Pedregon nearly unloaded him. If we can keep
that focus, we can help the dragster team and
Tony Schumacher and we can help Scotty even
though he is running a different body and
combination. All of our drivers get along with
each other and I think the crew chiefs are OK,
they just have to develop a trust between them.
The sooner that happens, the sooner we will be a
force to reckon with. I don't know if it is
going to happen in a month, six months or a
year. It looks good right now, and it is just
the beginning.
Q: What is the best thing about having a
four-car team, nonetheless a three-car Funny Car
program?
SCELZI: No matter if we are running the same
combination or not, it is still a car going down
the race track. When you see and start to know
how the other guy tunes, if he smokes the tires,
you will have an idea on how to compare your
data to his. If one car can get through the
middle and another can't, we will be able to go
over there and look at the data and learn a few
things. It doesn't matter what is under the
hood, two cars won't run the same no matter
what. But, I also know that different guys run
different timers in different ways and some are
aggressive here and not so much there. As long
as everyone keeps an open book, we can all take
advantage of that. We have the talent and the
want. We just have to get that chemistry
working.
Q: What are the disadvantages of having a
four-car team?
SCELZI: There is always the possibility of an
ego getting in the way. One ego can spread like
a cancer in the pits. You need someone to help
the mix and not let anyone from the outside
cause any problems. If they see us starting to
get strong and we are building a program, there
will be rumors, there will be things that can
try to dismantle a team. I think that if we are
all on the same page and if Bazemore says
something or if Neff hears something, we need to
face each other, be honest and believe our
teammates. If we keep our house clean, and not
let any strangers screw it up, I honestly
believe that we are going to be players. This is
a great opportunity for all of us and I think we
all know that.
Q: What do your bring to this organization as
far as your personality?
SCELZI: I think I am a pretty laid back guy with
a lot of energy. I am like the town clown. I can
definitely hang with Scotty. I have known Scotty
since he started and we have gotten along from
the beginning. Bazemore used to be my teammate.
People get on Bazemore because he speaks his
mind and I think there is no better person than
Whit. We went to a dinner last year for Matco
Tools in Cleveland, Ohio. Bazemore was almost as
funny as I was. How about that? He was close. He
was stealing the show. It was really refreshing.
Bazemore is a great guy but Bazemore says what
he thinks. Whether you love him or hate him, he
is never going to lie to you. If he thinks your
shirt is from the '60s, he is not going to say,
'Hey, nice shirt.' With Bazemore, what you see
is what you get. I don't see any conflicts
coming out of this group. Tony (Schumacher) and
I used to hate each other when we were racing
against each other (in Top Fuel), but we would
always be able to have a beer after the race.
Tony and I got along really good, especially
after the crash after we had both been on our
heads. We both care about each other even though
we try not to show it. Tony was the first one to
run to my car and I was the first one to run to
his car during the crashes. All bull aside, when
it is all laid out, we are all probably more
family than we would all like to admit.
Q: What do you personally want to accomplish in
2003?
SCELZI: I want to earn the respect of the Funny
Car drivers. When someone pulls next to me, I
want them to say, 'Oh no, I've got Scelzi'
instead of 'Oh yes, I've got Scelzi.' I want
them to feel the same way about me as when I ran
the dragster and won three titles. I want to
know that I have a crew chief that is going to
run this thing as hard as it will go. I want a
crew that is not going to make mistakes and to
know that their driver is going to be right
there for them. Sometimes a driver might be able
to steal one for them. I want to know that we
have all of that in our corner.
Q: How did sitting out most of the 2002 season
make you a better driver?
SCELZI: I don't know that it made me a better
driver. I never let winning races get in the way
of how I thought about myself. I always tried to
pick up on the best and copy them. Some of the
best drivers I have ever seen were Gary Beck,
Pat Austin and Dale Pulde. I have always watched
great guys. Larry Dixon in the last few years
has really come into his own. I watch Tony
Pedregon and I watch John Force. I watch guys
like that because there are certain times when
guys really have something going for them and
their confidence level is high. I don't care
what people say about me as long as I know in my
mind that if I won five races in a row, I am
going to know that there is someone hungrier
than me out there so I can't lose that burning
desire. I can't think I am that good because the
minute you think you are good is the minute you
are history. The one thing I learned when I was
sitting out in 2002 was how fortunate I was with
Winston as my primary sponsor during my Top Fuel
years. I had a major sponsor and things were
clicking between (former crew chief) Alan
Johnson and myself. I knew it was good then, but
when it is over, you think to yourself that it
may never happen again. I may never have that
closeness again. I didn't ever think of it as a
job. We laughed, we cried, we partied. We all
worked very well together. That is what I am
looking for now. I don't think I am premature,
but honestly, I am so comfortable with this
group. I am so relaxed. One thing about (Oakley
founder, CEO) Jim Jannard - I've known him for a
long time - but honestly when I went to his
office in January, I was so nervous. I have
never been nervous around Jim, but now I am
going to work for the man. He just has this
soothing way about it. When you start to get
nervous, he senses it and he will talk to you
like one of the boys. He always has. He has a
very unique way about him. When it comes to
(team owner) Don Schumacher, when I was hanging
out at the track during the four months that I
didn't race, I was messing with Don like I would
a buddy. I wasn't working for him and I never
thought I was going to get hired by him anyway.
We have a good relationship. I know where
everybody is coming from.
Q: Why did you and Alan Johnson sever your
working relationship?
SCELZI: It was just an unfortunate thing. Alan
and I had a great conversation just a couple of
weeks ago. I don't know and I am sure that Alan
doesn't really know what happened. I think that
we just lost the communication between us. But
believe me, we are friends. I wish him the best
and I know that he wishes me the best. We had a
great time talking. We both got caught up in the
rumors too. At the time, we didn't talk to each
other about that, but we do now. So we have
decided to be honest with each other and if
something ever comes up, just talk about it
instead of believing all of the rumors. We
should have done that in the beginning. I am at
peace with Alan and he is at peace with me and
who knows, we may end up together somewhere down
the road. You never know.
Q: What makes a championship-caliber driver?
SCELZI: Desire. Desire and the fear of losing.
No matter how much success you have, I think you
have to live with fear. The fear of getting
beat, the fear of what people might say about
you, the fear of everything. I think you can
call it paranoia. Paranoia and fear are good in
this line of work. John (Force) is a good
example of someone who is driven by those
things. In the business that my brothers and I
have at home, I am always scared that some young
company is going to move in and kick our butts.
It is the same thing out here. As long as you
have that desire and you want to be the best and
are open-minded, I think someone can stay on
top.
Q: How do you juggle a family with two small
children, a business and a driving career?
SCELZI: Sometimes the stress level gets to be a
record high and the only release you have is
that race car. I have two great brothers that
absolutely love me and run that business. I come
back for a couple of weeks at a time and screw
it up as best as I can and then I leave. I have
a wife (Julie) that is very understanding. She
knows how to read me and she never pushes my
buttons. The kids sometimes makes it easier for
me. They love their daddy and there is nothing
better than bedtime when they want to snuggle
with you and have you read them read a bedtime
story. That makes all the bad things go away.
Q: Is it better to win races with a family
behind you?
SCELZI: I think it is very empty without them.
It used to kill me to be on the road for three
weeks and have my little guy Dominic and only be
able to talk to him on the phone. Especially now
that he is 5 years old, he always asks when I am
coming home. Giavanni will grab my leg as I am
going out the door. There are going to be times
when they can't come out to the race. It's hard,
but knowing they are there is a very big deal. I
wouldn't want to win without them. I wouldn't
want to lose without them either.
Q: Is there a lot of pressure for your team to
perform well early and win?
SCELZI: Maybe. Mike Neff and I are going to try
very hard not to focus on that. But I can
already see that look in his eyes that tells me
how bad he wants to win. I am the same way. I
think we need to do it early just to set a
precedence. If it doesn't happen, we are going
to work our way around it. We will win a race,
at least. I would be very shocked if we didn't.
I just want to get it done early. Mike has won
with Bazemore, I have won with Alan, the guys
working on the team have won, some of them with
me on the Top Fuel team. I want all of these
guys to know that we have all done different
things, but this team, as one group, can be a
winning combination.
Q: What do you need to do to get the team to
work well quickly?
SCELZI: I think we are all doing it now. We have
a lot of new guys, including me, but we all seem
very comfortable around each other. One thing
that goes on here in Schumacher Racing is that
we have a lot of team discussions. We meet
almost every morning as well as at the end of
the day. Mike lays out his game plan then. He is
a very strong leader. He is a very quiet guy to
people that don't know him, but everybody here
is on the same page as he is and Mike listens to
everyone. He doesn't intimidate anyone on the
team. He is very easy to talk to. Sometimes when
a person is quiet, you may take that as
arrogant, or stand-offish. Mike just has a grin.
He teases me and we all tease each other on the
team, already. That just helps form the
closeness that we are going to need to make this
Funny Car go down the track quickly and win
races. If we don't get our first win early, and
it comes three months down the road, four months
maybe, I think we are still going to be OK. I
think the foundation of this team is solid. I am
putting that weight on my shoulders. I need to
keep our team happy. I need to give Bazemore's
team a bad time, Scotty's team a bad time. I
need to be the mischief maker. I need to keep
everyone happy by going down there to give Tony
a noogie. (Tony Schumacher's crew chief) Wes
Cerny came up to me during testing and he told
me how happy he was to be part of this team and
how happy he is that I am also part of the team.
Wes is tuning Tony's car. That made me feel so
good for Wes, someone I have always admired, to
say that. I don't want to sound like I am full
of it, but it really is scary good how things
are going right now. If it can get even better,
great. If it doesn't get any worse than this,
then it is going to be a beautiful thing. I am
just thrilled.
Q: What is the best thing about being part of
Don Schumacher Racing?
SCELZI: I can be extremely proud to represent
his team and Oakley. They are both extremely
serious and successful. I can be proud to bring
people to the hospitality area that is second to
none, to the race shop that is filled with every
single tool that this team needs to win a
championship. It is deep. We're deep with
talent, money, parts and desire. That is what is
so good about being part of Schumacher Racing.
Q: Tell us about the fundraiser you just had in
January.
SCELZI: We had the absolute best time. I told a
lot of drivers that I wanted to help build a
go-kart track in Fresno. I called Force, Del
Worsham, Tommy Johnson Jr., Ron Capps, Davey
Hamilton, who I knew from when he raced in the
Valley and Brandon Bernstein. We had Alan
Reinhart on the microphone for the event. They
all jumped at the chance to help, got in a
plane, and showed up to donate some stuff. It
really meant a lot to me that these guys would
help us. We had around 300 people there and we
raised $98,000. That was huge. Everybody rallied
behind the idea which meant a lot to me because
these guys are my friends, my peers and we
needed help and they didn't ask, they just dove
in. We are building a track with the money. It
is going to be called the San Joaquin Raceway
Park. We are going to start the project in
October and we are going to build a first-class
national event go-kart track for the kids.
People will be able to come from all over the
United States because it will be a first-rate
deal. The race track that has been there for
about 40 years is just a pile. Kids spin out and
they get in the dirt and they are just full of
stickers and weeds. We have done a major
clean-up job, we have gotten everything ready.
We are getting the property bought and doing
everything we can to make this happen. I have
never done a fundraiser before. I have been to
tons of them but never put one on. On the way
over to the event I told Julie to pull over
because I was going to be sick. I was so nervous
that people weren't going to have a good time or
that any of guys weren't going to make it. But
it all turned out great.
Q: What do you look forward to the most when you
are pulling up to the line?
SCELZI: Knowing that I am in one of the badest
hot rods in the parking lot. I have everything
it takes to win and that is all I have ever
asked for. Every time I jump out of the race car
I can say that I have one of the best things
going in drag racing right now.
Q: Four months ago, did you think you would be
in this situation?
SCELZI: Four months ago I was just about ready
to give up. I went through a time when I put my
motorhome up for sale and I had made a decision
that I was not going to do it own my own. I was
not going to drive something that wasn't capable
of winning. It's hard enough to win when you
have good things. I had to think about raising
my family. I wanted to set an example for my
kids. I wanted them to know that if I couldn't
get a job driving a race car, I could go back to
the business and that I can weld truck bodies,
paint truck bodies and sell truck bodies, like I
did before all of this stuff came along. I
didn't know until after the Finals at Pomona
that everything was going to be OK. It is a
horrible feeling. It's pretty great to be Gary
Scelzi now. Hopefully I can show the fans and
everyone else how appreciative I am to be back
out here. Not that I wasn't before, but you know
what? Even on a bad day of racing, it is not as
bad as a good day at work. It is all good now.
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